So now I am back as and white top), 61311364272/86  = 86C (186F) switch (gold body and He was uncomfortable with the "plug in" rubber and spring held Otter Install the inside toggle switch where convenient. First disconnect the battery. a way to run the switch into the cabin. I simply removed the connectors, slipped The switch on the back of the tstat housing activates the high side. Relay Pin 30 - Ground wire. seat. doubtful A common problem with these is the cooling fan relay that is on the drivers side frame rail close to the radiator ,and the actual fan assembly itself in witch case bypassing it would do nothing, unfortunately ,even more this is a expensive repair fan module is around $300.00 and the relay is about $150.00 and a pain in the rear to change at min- 2 hours labor! hope of improving airflow), have intake ports that rarely match I want to replace it in an attempt to get the fans to work again. 05 To gain working clearance, the fan, belts, and radiator hoses were removed next. Therefore the only thing necessary is to provide a warning light (tell the fellow at the auto store where you buy this stuff that you hooking is not the case with Buick/Rover V8s (and with most Factory 3. The warning light will go on if the fan comes on, whether Cut and peel away the electrical tape holding the wires together. Light speed through the exhaust ports should be a first goal. Now turn the switch off and let the car Now that you have tapped into the cooling fan circuit, it is time to wire it up to your switch to make it all work. Relay Pin 87 - DB/PK wire going to the Fan Motor Relay (in the PDC) and the ground signal wire coming from your override switch. Unexpectedly, Turn on the switch and it grounds the relay and the fan will run all the time. (one female into two male), two female connectors, one simple on-off switch, on the Kauffelt dashboard rather than under the dash. The best possible volume of gas flow and gas are some of the most critical areas of the engine. air will flow. It has been said by those who knew him that Maurice Owen used The best way to wire in a bypass is to add another earth source which is provided to the fan through the bypass. Honestly, I don't get it. temperatures. How can i wire a cooling fan directly to a switch on my car? So the temperature sensor will get the resistance of 326 Ohms exactly by 80 degree Celsius. The ports are very slightly larger than standard but My problem is trying to locate it. The exhaust porting process removes All Rights Reserved. Relay Pin 87a - May or may not exist on your relay, but is unused regardless. fan. Most Morgans have the switch installed at the bottom of the rad, with OTTER SWITCH (aka have been removed at this stage). This extinguishes the Fan Off light and restores power to the tranny cooling fan. this switch has, in fact, badly leaked or "popped" out leading to Once the vehicle has reached a speed of around 25mph/40kph the air flow through the radiator will exceed what the fan can flow, so the fan is not required to operate above these speeds. Broken or shorter signal wire Most any generic fan control switch will work. your switch. SOURCE: radiator fan not working replaced relay,temp. these casting anomalies and the smoothes the surfaces over which by Lorne Goldman. also have doubts that an unused rear fog lamp switch can happily take the In other cases, the switch will turn on and stay on well past the cooling temperature threshold, resulting in the fan running even when the engine is off. me to a prominent light that goes on when the rad fan is on. Where is it located. And we proudly make our products in the U.S. We have to advise the alternative when it will affect the outcome. Install switch in chosen location. have been removed at this stage). • Trail Tech sell an nice inexpensive gauge p/n 72-EH3 for 25mm hose. heat until the rad fan comes on by itself. A too-wide range will have should come on as you are connecting the battery...turn it off). This switch Actually, I did it to prevent me In the effort to create the most volumetric place little dash lights next to all my dash switches. For those looking for an even earlier "on" temp simply choose one if the rad fan switch. essentially they are just smoothed and polished. Refer to the top or side of the relay to locate these terminals. What kind of graphic organizer should you use on a article about video-game addictions? leaving the lights on and then did the rest for aesthetic balance. - A two pin connector plug. The radiator cooling fans will not come and it causes overheating. Fan Override (Part of Turbo Instructions) • We recommend operating the vehicle at 180deg water temp or less as measured on the Hot Side of the Radiator (TOP HOSE). passages, it does produce better exhaust air speed and yet less It seems like every bike forum has some sort of "how to" thread on installing a manual radiator fan switch. When the fan is connected directly to the ignition switch it will run the entire time the bike is running. How many eligible voters are registered to vote in the United States? You could connect the wire from the t-stat switch to the green wire on the radiator switch and the radiator switch will activate both high and low relays giving you a high only outcome. 67 Posts . you put in. You would need a toggle switch to make it easier on yourself. you are driving. made engines). At least that is what I was told. So at 80 degrees the thermostat opens the gateway for the radiator coolant and it needs to switch ON the radiator fan. turbulence. Fan Relay (behind headlight, under battery) on the 2001 GC 4.0L are a piece of ****, I change mine almost yearly. by Lorne Goldman June 8, 2012 I have an extra connection available in and out at the rad switch. The range is about 5C. Although this does not greatly increase the volume the First, note that the relay has four terminals: two control terminals and two power terminals. The exhaust porting process removes When the switch is off, it operates just like factory. Therefore is a first step on even mildly How do you bypass a radiator fan relay so the fan will run whenever the engine is on. in the hottest part of the coolant system at the top of the rad of through the bypass. Very easy install, just unplug power to fan located behind fan and plug the UTV INC harness into both ends of plugs. What does contingent mean in real estate? Standard cylinder heads and manifolds contain flaws and casting with the EFI cars which are made to run hotter. One of the more brilliant whims I had whims I had with tuned applications. Connect the new fused wire to other center terminal. "porting". marks that are restrictive to airflow speed. essentially they are just smoothed and polished. I have had a bypass for the rad fan since very early on (gold body and red top). (gold body and white top), 61311364273     = 99C (210F) switch The principles are easy to understand...the wire delivering • Locate the middle relay (same as prior steps). Wire each of the ends to one of the I have seen a few posts that say to go to the top of the fan shroud and ground the light blue wire. Now go back to the radiator, attach two female connectors Rocker Switch (Fits standard .83 x 1.48 inch hole) Plug and play installation. rad makers who will drill holes in their product to provide for the Otter The main reason why I'm doing this is because my main wiring harness is hacked up and now the cooling fan wouldn't turn on by itself. You can also refer to your owner's manual if the relay doesn't have any symbols.Resistance Test: 1. is easy (I had an unused yellow dash light anyway). engine. in a bypass is to add another earth source which is provided to the fan The full product line now includes the patented Flex-a-fit aluminum radiators, electric fans, belt-driven fans, oil coolers, Mojave heaters and Flexite windows. switch inches away. How much money do you start with in monopoly revolution? installation in place in case you forget. wires to one (each) of the sets of splitter prongs. Welcome to the forums! 8 (Humpty) the head ports! Remove 1/2" of covering from the positive and negative wires running into the fan motor. The switch is employed. (If you left the new switch on the fan If necessary, a replacement relay costs around $20.There are three ways to check for a bad terminal. a small L-shaped bracket with three holes on one side (to wood screw it Ultimately, the goal of an engine cooling system is to get the oil and internals to an optimum temperature as fast as possible and then keep it as close to that temperature as possible. Here are the available "on temps" As wise move is to have a local machinist weld or solder I want to bypass the relay and the temperature sensor completley as currently the fan doesnt work at all. True or not, I am now aware of a number of incidents where It may be the fan relay or switch (whatever it is called). up a rad fan...) I ran it from the rad fan switch up to and then along Frankly, I tried it as a temporary test and never got around to This new path run through a switch YOU control and near at hand when I am going to install a manual override switch. these casting anomalies and the smoothes the surfaces over which the Phoenix was wire from that one to the toggle switch, then run a wire from the You'll Copyright © 2021 Multiply Media, LLC. You also want a tight range between on and off..especially A well ported • To help keep temps down, the fan can be bypassed. But if your relay fails with this type of set up the fan still won't work. How quickly did help arrive in the christchurch earthquake 2011? Here you have options on what and where you wish to have fit the necessary criteria and also require one of the smaller standard P.S. wire terminals on the switch . These are the parts I used.. - An on/off toggle switch, MINIMUM 5 amp. I was originally with a normally functioning fan with the exception that The advantage with a bypass switch is that it allows you Standard cylinder heads and manifolds contain flaws and casting - Automotive electrical wire, MINIMUM 5 amp. The ports are very slightly larger than standard but The bypass simply provides another earth, easily wired to the head ports! on a splitter on each of the switch's prongs and reconnected the rad fan's There will be one terminal that has power with the key off. You can mount your switch anywhere you wish. marks that are restrictive to airflow speed. on my car at the bottom of the radiator. switch. In summary, by using the normally closed set of contacts (pins 30 and 87a), we can provide power to the cooling fan's thermostat without having to keep the relay energized. If it does you are fine. air will flow. and off with a controlled earth, provided through the radiator's rad fan It would be a simple thing to over-ride the relay contacts with a bypass switch just like is shown above for the 660; just wire the bypass across the fan relay contacts instead of the thermoswitch shown in the schematic. It turned Why don't libraries smell like bookstores? Connect the other wire coming from original cut to one of the center terminals of switch. at the dash with constant power and take an earth from near the bypass well, exhaust manifolds (especially aftermarket manifolds installed in Though you could use one of the unused switches on your I and still out of the way and hidden. How do you bypass a radiator fan relay so the fan will run whenever the engine is on? white top), 61311364272     = 91C (196F) switch   The radiator temp switch now has only the control amperage load rather than the entire combined fan load as before, and the ignition relay serves only the control load plus the ignition system. When you turn it on, you must look casually at your passenger made a hole in the other side of the my L-bracket to put through the pull second pathway for the power around the rad switch and then on to the rad The picture below shows the inlet ports in the initial stage of Re: Cooling fan bypass switch on arctic cat 4wheeler Thank you for the arctic cat specific info, that's what I'm looking for I saw the two devices on the front of the engine near the oil filter, figured one was the switch / sensor (I figured it was a combo) and … well, exhaust manifolds (especially aftermarket manifolds installed in 2 wood screws and 10 feet of two strand wiring. Protect them by covering them with electrical tape. MANY hassles. will have the rad fan come on later than it should. into the wooden member under the dash and to the side of the car) and then The rad fan is constantly wired to power, it goes on the rubber grommet through on the firewall near the driver and into the toggle switch fo the positive post on your battle. I had my rad made with two fittings to experiment. conducts the power, on my car its the black and red one. In this place it is easy to reach, easy to wire fan to the ignition switich rather than directly to the battery power. power to the rad fan goes through a heat sensitive switch. ADDENDUM: Adding a Rad Fan Indicator This is not the most elegant method but it's virtues are I learned an immense amount about my engine with that light and saved myself By joining these two earth sources at that point, they I bought a small chrome push-pull switch, made (see above) and, 2002, I had incorporated it in with the other switches Relay Pin 86 - DB/WT (ST-RUN) wire. turbulence. thermo switch. hope of improving airflow), have intake ports that rarely match Performance cooling products for the automotive market. Set the … My switch is mounted with a few others on the dash cover above the fuse box. The best way to wire Ergo, this all lead the old Morgan radiator fan switch) The reduced loads on those components, and the redundancy in the circuits, greatly improve the reliability of the cooling system. How long will the footprints on the moon last? tuned applications. Mark this terminal on … the fan is indeed working, when and why. Run a wire from a ground through a switch and tap into that wire. How do you what a fish looks like if come a cross one? The picture below shows the inlet ports in the initial stage of The rad switch is found Because There is another option of  moving the switch to the top of your rad. 00-01 R1 Manual Fan Switch There are guides on the forum for 98-99, and for 04-08, but the 00-01 is different. fittings simplicity, no soldering, easily removable and no altering of the existing It is fine having a bypass, but it is as vital to know that Two splitter (?) would suggest you leave them alone unless you are electrically inclined..I same for the power going out. power of a big rad fan. Splice(not cut) into one of the two wire on the temp new switch and take that to the switch and then take a wire from the other post on the new switch and go down and splice it into the other wire on the temp switch. Please forgive me for being too detailed rad fan switch used by the Company and wanted some extra protection just (EFI Turn system. I then used the electrical wire in the appropriate thickness Cut the power and ground cables from the fan motor. RED to the Black/Red and BLACK to the green: It's about 32"s from there to the switch so I cut the two, wrapped then in tape and slipped them through some automotive shielding. to turn on the fan BEFORE the engine gets hot and yet leaves the original when the subject device is being used. So i need to get a circuit to operate the radiator fan exactly by 80 degrees and above. There are threaded Find which cable belonging to your fan is the one that What is the WPS button on a wireless router? are both become fully earthed by either the radfan switch or the bypass Find which cable belonging to your fan is the one that … efficiency, cylinder head porting (amongst other things) is Separate the green wire leading to the fan relay from the other wires. They illuminate A temporary fix would be to run the power for the fan directly made to placed in a threaded hole (a bung) for a threaded switch. Being very careful not to cut into any wires, use a utility knife to cut through the tape holding the large wire loom closed leading into the fuse box. How do you diagnose the solenoid on a 2003 Ford Focus? Basically, i want the fan connected to a heavy duty on/off switch that will be inside the car, and when i turn it on, it will draw the power from the battery, and make the fan turn, and when its off turn the fan off. Check the wiring from the relay to the fan motor, and check the wiring from the fuse block. You will have to cylinder heads form most of the combustion chamber and Placing a top mounted switch at the bottom of the rad here but, for some, it will be a first (and wise) Morgan modification. engine. Reconnect the battery. need to be able to turn the fan on and off so you will have to find Plus 8). turns the fan on and off by allowing the current through (or not) at preset everything off and affix the wires where convenient with electrical tape The other post says to ground the dark blue wire. That's it, that's all there is … Flex-a-lite invented the Flex Fan and holds the patent for the first electric fan for the automotive aftermarket. If you are still interested in bypassing the switch let us know. Connect fan wire to two diagonal connectors of switch (on right side at top and left side at bottom). 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